anonymuse wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 05:01

Vinaire wrote on Tue, 22 June 2010 05:33

I have now published KHTK #5 on my blog.

A continual practice of these exercises may lead to a permanent state of exteriorization.

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Talking of this possibility before any experimentation can influence unpredictably a person's experiment. But you can share the effects they have on YOU; just don't put it in generic terms. Even if the effects are to be the same for all, each person has to reach there by his own experience, and not to try to attain what others attained. Post the conclusions of your OWN experience and let others share theirs otherwise they will try to approach YOUR experience and not THEIRS. It's easier to reach agreement like this. If there's already a defined goal, there may be some rebelion to it and then the best aim may not be achieved just for that. Learning about children is very useful when dealing with adults; the psychology didn't change that much.

There's a big NO inside all of us so one has to play wisely with it

Something I forgot mentioning but I think it's worth it:

Consider that when people are looking for solutions they are very open to suggestions. That's why I said what I said previously. A person in need will not filter as well as a person who is not looking for anything, and so will absorb things more directly, specially the opinions of those presenting the solutions to them.

But this is as relative as it is just my own experience and observation.

anonymuse wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 12:01

Vinaire wrote on Tue, 22 June 2010 05:33

I have now published KHTK #5 on my blog.

A continual practice of these exercises may lead to a permanent state of exteriorization.

.

Talking of this possibility before any experimentation can influence unpredictably a person's experiment. But you can share the effects they have on YOU; just don't put it in generic terms. Even if the effects are to be the same for all, each person has to reach there by his own experience, and not to try to attain what others attained. Post the conclusions of your OWN experience and let others share theirs otherwise they will try to approach YOUR experience and not THEIRS. It's easier to reach agreement like this. If there's already a defined goal, there may be some rebelion to it and then the best aim may not be achieved just for that. Learning about children is very useful when dealing with adults; the psychology didn't change that much.

There's a big NO inside all of us so one has to play wisely with it

Exteriorization = Differentiation of self from body.

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anonymuse wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 12:01

Vinaire wrote on Tue, 22 June 2010 05:33

I have now published KHTK #5 on my blog.

A continual practice of these exercises may lead to a permanent state of exteriorization.

.

Talking of this possibility before any experimentation can influence unpredictably a person's experiment. But you can share the effects they have on YOU; just don't put it in generic terms. Even if the effects are to be the same for all, each person has to reach there by his own experience, and not to try to attain what others attained. Post the conclusions of your OWN experience and let others share theirs otherwise they will try to approach YOUR experience and not THEIRS. It's easier to reach agreement like this. If there's already a defined goal, there may be some rebelion to it and then the best aim may not be achieved just for that. Learning about children is very useful when dealing with adults; the psychology didn't change that much.

There's a big NO inside all of us so one has to play wisely with it

Exteriorization = Differentiation of self from body.

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Vinaire wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 19:14

anonymuse wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 12:01

Vinaire wrote on Tue, 22 June 2010 05:33

I have now published KHTK #5 on my blog.

A continual practice of these exercises may lead to a permanent state of exteriorization.

.

Talking of this possibility before any experimentation can influence unpredictably a person's experiment. But you can share the effects they have on YOU; just don't put it in generic terms. Even if the effects are to be the same for all, each person has to reach there by his own experience, and not to try to attain what others attained. Post the conclusions of your OWN experience and let others share theirs otherwise they will try to approach YOUR experience and not THEIRS. It's easier to reach agreement like this. If there's already a defined goal, there may be some rebelion to it and then the best aim may not be achieved just for that. Learning about children is very useful when dealing with adults; the psychology didn't change that much.

There's a big NO inside all of us so one has to play wisely with it

Exteriorization = Differentiation of self from body.

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Assumption is the mother of all f*** ups.

Vinaire wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 19:14

anonymuse wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 12:01

Vinaire wrote on Tue, 22 June 2010 05:33

I have now published KHTK #5 on my blog.

A continual practice of these exercises may lead to a permanent state of exteriorization.

.

Talking of this possibility before any experimentation can influence unpredictably a person's experiment. But you can share the effects they have on YOU; just don't put it in generic terms. Even if the effects are to be the same for all, each person has to reach there by his own experience, and not to try to attain what others attained. Post the conclusions of your OWN experience and let others share theirs otherwise they will try to approach YOUR experience and not THEIRS. It's easier to reach agreement like this. If there's already a defined goal, there may be some rebelion to it and then the best aim may not be achieved just for that. Learning about children is very useful when dealing with adults; the psychology didn't change that much.

There's a big NO inside all of us so one has to play wisely with it

Exteriorization = Differentiation of self from body.

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Exteriorization = an ideia / belief / impression / consideration of the self being different from the body.

anonymuse wrote on Fri, 25 June 2010 10:08

Vinaire wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 19:14

anonymuse wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 12:01

Vinaire wrote on Tue, 22 June 2010 05:33

I have now published KHTK #5 on my blog.

A continual practice of these exercises may lead to a permanent state of exteriorization.

.

Talking of this possibility before any experimentation can influence unpredictably a person's experiment. But you can share the effects they have on YOU; just don't put it in generic terms. Even if the effects are to be the same for all, each person has to reach there by his own experience, and not to try to attain what others attained. Post the conclusions of your OWN experience and let others share theirs otherwise they will try to approach YOUR experience and not THEIRS. It's easier to reach agreement like this. If there's already a defined goal, there may be some rebelion to it and then the best aim may not be achieved just for that. Learning about children is very useful when dealing with adults; the psychology didn't change that much.

There's a big NO inside all of us so one has to play wisely with it

Exteriorization = Differentiation of self from body.

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Exteriorization = an ideia / belief / impression / consideration of the self being different from the body.

body = an idea / belief / impression / consideration
self = an idea / belief / impression / consideration

idea = idea
belief = belief
impression = impression
consideration = consideration

Where does it end?
In as-isness.

LOOK and EXPERIENCE whatever is there... including figure-figure.

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anonymuse wrote on Fri, 25 June 2010 09:41

Vinaire wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 19:14

anonymuse wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 12:01

Vinaire wrote on Tue, 22 June 2010 05:33

I have now published KHTK #5 on my blog.

A continual practice of these exercises may lead to a permanent state of exteriorization.

.

Talking of this possibility before any experimentation can influence unpredictably a person's experiment. But you can share the effects they have on YOU; just don't put it in generic terms. Even if the effects are to be the same for all, each person has to reach there by his own experience, and not to try to attain what others attained. Post the conclusions of your OWN experience and let others share theirs otherwise they will try to approach YOUR experience and not THEIRS. It's easier to reach agreement like this. If there's already a defined goal, there may be some rebelion to it and then the best aim may not be achieved just for that. Learning about children is very useful when dealing with adults; the psychology didn't change that much.

There's a big NO inside all of us so one has to play wisely with it

Exteriorization = Differentiation of self from body.

.

Assumption is the mother of all f*** ups.

What are you assuming?

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Here are the latest updates on my blog.

UPDATES

I have a lot more stuff convulsing in my head that I need to put down on paper.

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Vinaire wrote on Mon, 05 July 2010 06:39

Here are the latest updates on my blog.

UPDATES

I have a lot more stuff convulsing in my head that I need to put down on paper.

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The moment a consideration is made, creativity is being manifested, which is a spiritual characteristic, different from MEST, as is self-determinism.

Each higher level of awareness implies being able to look at the "present" universe from outside, so the earlier spiritual or conscious part of that universe becomes part of MEST.(It actually was that with which the spirit had identified itself).

Example : Carl Sagan saying the physical universe has reached consciousness in man.
But recognizing the spirit, man (The body), becomes part of MEST, instead of being conscious.

So what happens when the spirit reaches the highest level of awareness, when there are no more universes above the current one, does it returns to pure potential ?

Being at the point of the very beginning, what stops it from
creating new, higher universes, and assuming new viewpoints on them?

The dwindling spiral now going up, where does it ends ?